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>>> and why isis why the u.s. demanded her release. and we now know the racial breakdown of the grand jury. is there any chance of a fair trial? let's go "outfront." >>> and good evening, everyone, i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, the obama administration calling the beheading of american james foley by isis, a terrorist attack, the united states is considering more air strikes against iraq and possibly going into syria. today, one of the president's top national security visors made it clear that foley's horrific murder was an attack against all americans. >> clearly, the brutal execution of jim foley represented an affront, an attack, not just on him but he's an american. and we see that as an attack on our country, when one of our own is killed like that. we made clear if you come after americans we're going to come after you, wherever you. are and that's going to guide our planning in the days to come. >> is the white house making a case for war? barbara starr is at the pentagon tonight. this is beyond iraq. jim foley was behe
>>> and why isis why the u.s. demanded her release. and we now know the racial breakdown of the grand jury. is there any chance of a fair trial? let's go "outfront." >>> and good evening, everyone, i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, the obama administration calling the beheading of american james foley by isis, a terrorist attack, the united states is considering more air strikes against iraq and possibly going into syria. today, one of the president's...
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one of the further problems is you have people affiliated with or supporters of this isis type group, and they will say these shiite leaders need to be targeted, but then you have shiite supporters that will come out and say, no, this is clearly an i.s. attack. >> and if it does turn out to be a shiite militia, what do they gain in carrying out an attack like this? >> it all depends. it comes down to certain sectarian motivations. there was a history, and still is, of sectarian killings and ethnic cleansings that has happened in iraq and it has happened since the united states occupation of the country. so in terms of pulling off an attack like this, the immediate reasoning was there were a number of shiite militia men who were attached with official forces who were killed in a bombing, and then they took out a rage on this sunni moss -- mosque. however, such a blatant and open attack hasn't really occurred before from a shiite militia like this. >> you talked about the fog of war, and i wonder if social media makes the situation even more complicated to fully dissect. >> it certainly
one of the further problems is you have people affiliated with or supporters of this isis type group, and they will say these shiite leaders need to be targeted, but then you have shiite supporters that will come out and say, no, this is clearly an i.s. attack. >> and if it does turn out to be a shiite militia, what do they gain in carrying out an attack like this? >> it all depends. it comes down to certain sectarian motivations. there was a history, and still is, of sectarian...
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from what the president himself said in january, calling isis jv players. would you still agree with his assessment just a few months ago? >> i think what the president was speaking to a few months ago was the fact of the matter is you have many different groups operating across the middle east and north africa. as we shift from a situation in which the counterterrorism threat principally emanated from al qaeda core, we are going to need to evaluate which of these groups pose a threat to the united states, which of these groups pose a threat to our personnel in the region, and which of these groups are more localized militia-type forces that are potentially dangerous but can be handled by local security forces. clearly, isil, which has a long history and an origin dating back to aqi, al qaeda in iraq, has gained capacity in the last several months as the fighting in syria has given them some safe haven there and as they've advanced across iraq and gained heavy weaponry and as they've become better funded through various funding streams, including what they'
from what the president himself said in january, calling isis jv players. would you still agree with his assessment just a few months ago? >> i think what the president was speaking to a few months ago was the fact of the matter is you have many different groups operating across the middle east and north africa. as we shift from a situation in which the counterterrorism threat principally emanated from al qaeda core, we are going to need to evaluate which of these groups pose a threat to...
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is it to destroy isis? that's what i would urge, but we're not sure what the president wants to do. >> you just said you believe containment is defeat. does the u.s. need to target the i.s. in syria to contain it? because by one estimate there are 50,000 i.s. fighters in syria. >> i don't think the numbers are that high. the latest figures i saw are between 10 and 20,000, but that's over a very large area stretching from aleppo, to mosul. and the first priority needs to be to defeat them in iraq. that's where the strategic terrain is. that's where the oil fields are located, and we have partners. certainly the kurds in the north and it looks like a better government in bagdad. >> and that 50,000 number comes from the syrian observatory of human rights. but do you think the only way to stop i.s. right now is a military one by killing its members? is there a diplomatic solution that should also be a solution here? >> again, president obama laid this all out on june 19th. it's diplomatic with the region, it's
is it to destroy isis? that's what i would urge, but we're not sure what the president wants to do. >> you just said you believe containment is defeat. does the u.s. need to target the i.s. in syria to contain it? because by one estimate there are 50,000 i.s. fighters in syria. >> i don't think the numbers are that high. the latest figures i saw are between 10 and 20,000, but that's over a very large area stretching from aleppo, to mosul. and the first priority needs to be to defeat...
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the unfortunate reality is that isis answers to no one. they are a group that has attacked muslims, sunni and shi'a, yazidi, christians and now an american. so we are putting every effort behind this but we have been clear that we don't pay ransom for two very specific reasons. the first is that we don't want to fund ie sfoil do more of these kind of activities and we also don't want to encourage them to take additional americans hostage and think they would be able to get a ransom if they did so. >> is there concern that the highly public -- it was not called by the u.s. government, a prisoner swap, but reportedly prisoner swap for bowe bergdahl created incentives for more kidnappings by groups like al qaeda, like isis? >> not at all bowe bergdahl was a u.s. military serviceman. there are well-established rules for how we bring our servicemen home. that doesn't mean we don't put every resource we have at our disposal towards finding these hostages and bringing them home. people in this building starting with secretary kerry and a whole te
the unfortunate reality is that isis answers to no one. they are a group that has attacked muslims, sunni and shi'a, yazidi, christians and now an american. so we are putting every effort behind this but we have been clear that we don't pay ransom for two very specific reasons. the first is that we don't want to fund ie sfoil do more of these kind of activities and we also don't want to encourage them to take additional americans hostage and think they would be able to get a ransom if they did...
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military response to isis. we will start with douglas on the line for republicans from illinois. >> morning sir. i feel it was right on the money. i feel we have to eliminate them right away. and our military commanders say we should leave ten, 20,000 troops on the ground? i don't know what the high water mark was in terms of how many troops we ever had on the ground but i feel that we should ramp up to take care of them before they take care of us. markemark is waiting in wiscons. good morning. >> caller: good morning. >> guest: there are different countries involved and the option should be put back on the table to have people have to fund the ground. however, it should be reinstalled, number one. and number two, i think it should be paid for by taxing all stock trades. >> host: that is mark from wisconsin. the conversation on c-span. russell writes in on the facebook page expanded? more like unleashed no more rules of engagement is his comment on the page. further down below that greg baker writes that it sh
military response to isis. we will start with douglas on the line for republicans from illinois. >> morning sir. i feel it was right on the money. i feel we have to eliminate them right away. and our military commanders say we should leave ten, 20,000 troops on the ground? i don't know what the high water mark was in terms of how many troops we ever had on the ground but i feel that we should ramp up to take care of them before they take care of us. markemark is waiting in wiscons. good...
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but so far the air campaign is only targeting isis in iraq. isis doesn't operate only in iraq. it spans the border into syria. the president's defense team said attacking only a part of isis is having a limited impact. >> can they be defeated without addressing that part of the organization which resides in syria? the answer is no. >> reporter: defense secretary hagel had strong warnings about this uniquely brutal group. >> this is beyond anything that we've seen. so we must prepare for everything. and the only way you do that is take a cold steely hard look at it and get ready. >> reporter: the defense officials did not say washington is prepared to extend air strikes into syria. only that they're looking at all options. isis controls large parts of iraq and syria and still holds around 20 foreign hostages. french journalist nicolas henin released in april shared a cell with some of them including reporter james foley. he said foley was singled out for abuse because he was american. >> james foley was probably my best cell mate during our months of captivity together. for sure
but so far the air campaign is only targeting isis in iraq. isis doesn't operate only in iraq. it spans the border into syria. the president's defense team said attacking only a part of isis is having a limited impact. >> can they be defeated without addressing that part of the organization which resides in syria? the answer is no. >> reporter: defense secretary hagel had strong warnings about this uniquely brutal group. >> this is beyond anything that we've seen. so we must...
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the isis fight. a grave warning from america's top commanders as the parents of james foley describe their son's courage and add their plea for the safe return of stephen sotloff. i'll speak with a congresswoman. >> the lessons of ferguson. more peace on the streets but ha questions about the work of the grnl and the best way to police our streets. our are cameras on cops the answer? from mug shot to manchester. it hasn't stopped rick perry's trip to new hampshire. will the presidential hopes for him live free or die? we'll frame that debate on friday, the 22nd of august. >>> good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. the first focus on the growing threat from isis. the islamist terrorists who murdered american journalist james
the isis fight. a grave warning from america's top commanders as the parents of james foley describe their son's courage and add their plea for the safe return of stephen sotloff. i'll speak with a congresswoman. >> the lessons of ferguson. more peace on the streets but ha questions about the work of the grnl and the best way to police our streets. our are cameras on cops the answer? from mug shot to manchester. it hasn't stopped rick perry's trip to new hampshire. will the presidential...
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we created this crazy isis. we should deal with the fact that we need to stop the stabilizing these governments, even if they are tyrants we don't want to get in bed with. it would be better than having isis in control. host: marvin in birmingham. we are asking your thoughts on the expansion of u.s. military response to isis in iraq and in syria. this is a story from politico to show you. the presence may prompt congress to weigh and specifically on troop action. that story is playing out in the pages of the new york times. york -- is wary of new u.s. military expansion. you can read this story in the new york times. let's go to jack from florida for the democrats line. caller: i wanted to mention that when the president refused to go ahead and bomb syria for that red line he drew, he got those chemical weapons out of syria with the help of food and -- vladimir putin. that is a good thing because we would be in trouble now. updates in thet state department on u.s. airstrikes, there have been 90 over the last two
we created this crazy isis. we should deal with the fact that we need to stop the stabilizing these governments, even if they are tyrants we don't want to get in bed with. it would be better than having isis in control. host: marvin in birmingham. we are asking your thoughts on the expansion of u.s. military response to isis in iraq and in syria. this is a story from politico to show you. the presence may prompt congress to weigh and specifically on troop action. that story is playing out in...
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we're not quite sure whether he went into iraq to contain isis. president obama has done the right things but hasn't been clear to sprain his objects to the american people. i think his goal is defeat. we're not certain what the president wants to do. >> you believe containment is defeat. does the u.s. need to target i.s. in syria? there are 50,000i s. fighters in syria by one estimate. >> i don't think the number is that high. the latest if is i saw are between 10,000 and 20,000, i would lean toward 20,000 but that's over a verge area stretching from aleppo near the mediterranean coast to mosul in the north of iraq. the first priority needs to be to defeat them in iraq. that's where the strategic terrain is, where the oil fields are located, and we have partners. certainly the kurds in the north and it looks like a better government in baghdad with whom we can ally. >> issued point out that that 50,000 number comes from the human rights syrian observatory of human rights. do you think the only way to stop i.s. right now is a military one, killing
we're not quite sure whether he went into iraq to contain isis. president obama has done the right things but hasn't been clear to sprain his objects to the american people. i think his goal is defeat. we're not certain what the president wants to do. >> you believe containment is defeat. does the u.s. need to target i.s. in syria? there are 50,000i s. fighters in syria by one estimate. >> i don't think the number is that high. the latest if is i saw are between 10,000 and 20,000, i...
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of course through isis conflict this summer one thing that is noteworthy throughout july is we have seen the heaviest bombardment on gaza and israeli have done in years and yet high profile hamas or other factions, high profile targets had not been hit and israelis coming under some pressure because there had been questions asked back home what are they gaining from this war. it's only this past week, in the last few days that we have seen high profile targets on the military wing of hamas hit or at least attempts also made on their lives. so it's significant that at this moment they decide to make this announcement and sends a message to any collaborators across the gaza strip. >> for the moment jane we will leave it there and follow events with you from gaza as the day progresses. people in occupied east jerusalem are facing the largest wave in years and say israeli police are going to palestinian people and accusing them of starting riots and kimberly has more. >> reporter: the parents of mohamed haven't seen their son in weeks. they wait anxiously for a hearing in an israeli court, h
of course through isis conflict this summer one thing that is noteworthy throughout july is we have seen the heaviest bombardment on gaza and israeli have done in years and yet high profile hamas or other factions, high profile targets had not been hit and israelis coming under some pressure because there had been questions asked back home what are they gaining from this war. it's only this past week, in the last few days that we have seen high profile targets on the military wing of hamas hit...
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isis has effectively a state. it doesn't even call itself isis anymore. it's now called the islamic state because they control about a third of syria, they control large sections of northern iraq, including the city of mosul, which is 2 million people. they have heavy weapons. u.s.-made weapons stolen from the iraqi army. so just carrying out airstrikes in iraq doesn't do much against the group. it contains them. it pushes a little bit them back over the border into syria, but since they operate both in iraq and syria, it's not going to eliminate the group, because if they get hit in iraq, they just retreat back over the border into syria, regroup, and live to fight another day. what we're seeing now is the senior u.s. officials, including the defense secretary, and the chairman of the joint chiefs, saying, this isn't enough. this isn't working. we can bomb northern iraq forever, and trying to bomb, you know, the isis targets, and it's not -- this problem isn't going to go away. and this group is dangerous. it is incredibly radical. it is blood thirsty. a
isis has effectively a state. it doesn't even call itself isis anymore. it's now called the islamic state because they control about a third of syria, they control large sections of northern iraq, including the city of mosul, which is 2 million people. they have heavy weapons. u.s.-made weapons stolen from the iraqi army. so just carrying out airstrikes in iraq doesn't do much against the group. it contains them. it pushes a little bit them back over the border into syria, but since they...
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isis is a defacto country. they control territory on both sides of the invisible territory between syria and iraq. i've been there many times. there is no way to distinguish one country from the next, particularly when you remove the border posts. so this is an act of war by a defacto state against the united states of america. i want the united states of america to declare war on this islamic state, on this caliphate. i want us now to be in a state of war against them. i think that if you put it in those terms, that is the primary source of our retribution, our revenge, our justice. it will be making war on these savages who have not only obscenely beheaded an american citizen, but threatened extensionally the united states of america, 100 of them have american passports. 500 have british passports. they're coming this way. >> let's talk about this, should there be a declaration of war by the united states congress today whereby we put marines, soldiers, airmen, everybody into iraq and syria to destroy isis? >
isis is a defacto country. they control territory on both sides of the invisible territory between syria and iraq. i've been there many times. there is no way to distinguish one country from the next, particularly when you remove the border posts. so this is an act of war by a defacto state against the united states of america. i want the united states of america to declare war on this islamic state, on this caliphate. i want us now to be in a state of war against them. i think that if you put...
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isis kills for terror and propaganda but not for money. in the case of french and spanish journalists held by isis, released this spring and able to provide the intel for planning this raid, it appears that isis really was holding them for money. because although the french and spanish and other european countries don't admit to paying ransoms to terrorist groups like isis and al qaeda in exchange for hostages, it's widely known that they do. the u.s. and the uk do not pay ransom for hostages, but other countries do and those european journalists were released in march and april this spring and then apparently those european journalists were able to provide information to the u.s. government to help the u.s. government plan this raid. this raid that ultimately did not work. but it gave them the confidence to try. the ceo of "global post" where jim foley was working at the time he died, the ceo of "global post" says the released hostages were also able to tell that publication that there were more than a dozen european and american hostages
isis kills for terror and propaganda but not for money. in the case of french and spanish journalists held by isis, released this spring and able to provide the intel for planning this raid, it appears that isis really was holding them for money. because although the french and spanish and other european countries don't admit to paying ransoms to terrorist groups like isis and al qaeda in exchange for hostages, it's widely known that they do. the u.s. and the uk do not pay ransom for hostages,...
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already at war with isis? >> are you looking at me? do i -- >> you're the general. >> do i look like a guy that would answer that question in front of the -- the declaration of war is a policy decision, not a military decision. >> attorney general eric holder announced today the department of justice has opened a criminal investigation into foley's murder saying that, "people will be held accountable one way or the other." british intelligence are trying to identify foley's killer, and we learned more about the u.s. attempt to rescue foley and other american hostages. the mission under the cover of night was authorized by president obama employed two dozen delta force commandos. they raided an oil refinery in the northern part of syria and engaged in a fire fight with islamic militants. according to "the new york times." where the hostages had been moved. we also learned that isis had attempted to extract ransom in exchange for foley. the group pressed the united states to provide a multimillion dollar ransom for his release according
already at war with isis? >> are you looking at me? do i -- >> you're the general. >> do i look like a guy that would answer that question in front of the -- the declaration of war is a policy decision, not a military decision. >> attorney general eric holder announced today the department of justice has opened a criminal investigation into foley's murder saying that, "people will be held accountable one way or the other." british intelligence are trying to...
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it's not so much that isis goes around to recruit them. they actually go to isis. they are now being recruited through the different forms of social media. isis are very active with their followers on twitter, on youtube, on facebook. this has become a sort of social media type of recruitment. something we've not seen before. but where it's instantaneous and very appealing. >> but it's not as simple as people are being recruited because they see a tweet or a facebook post, right? what is -- what is the underlying philosophy or mindset of, let's say, someone in london or new york or a major international city who's seeing the isis propaganda and then considers that this is a possibility for them? >> well, isis has successfully been able to thread two separate issues and amalgamate them. on the one hand you had the problems in syria where there was a battle against assad regime, and secular, they had to take it out of iraq. the other problem was the premiership of nuri al maliki where he was disenfranchising sunni arabs from playing any role in iraq's political futur
it's not so much that isis goes around to recruit them. they actually go to isis. they are now being recruited through the different forms of social media. isis are very active with their followers on twitter, on youtube, on facebook. this has become a sort of social media type of recruitment. something we've not seen before. but where it's instantaneous and very appealing. >> but it's not as simple as people are being recruited because they see a tweet or a facebook post, right? what is...
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, could come back battle hardened with new skills and a b grudge. >> if isis is defeated they will be forced to return to europe or the u.k. it's con seepable if britain and america play a role in defeating them that they will come back to attack the home countries if you like. >> reporter: already one western attack has been contributed to the islamic state group a former fighter opened fire in a jewish museum in belgium. this has the father concerned for his children their safety and humanity. >> the ideology they might pick up there. which has no connection to islam nor humanity. the bigger worry is that they might get killed there. >> reporter: authorities here at britain's intelligence service mi6 say finding those fighter returning from syria and iraq is one of their main priorities with passport holders having visa free access to the united states, for homelands security fighting those fight percent said of their list. phil ittner, al jazerra, london. >>> now lawyers for three al jazerra journalists jailed in egypt have filed appeals against their convictions. the case will now
, could come back battle hardened with new skills and a b grudge. >> if isis is defeated they will be forced to return to europe or the u.k. it's con seepable if britain and america play a role in defeating them that they will come back to attack the home countries if you like. >> reporter: already one western attack has been contributed to the islamic state group a former fighter opened fire in a jewish museum in belgium. this has the father concerned for his children their safety...
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a stronghold of isis. u.s. special forces were sent into danger because the intelligence showed the target was a likely location where the hostages were being held, a senior u.s. official tells cnn. but it was not certain. the intelligence failed. >> intelligence doesn't come wrapped in a package with a bow. it is a mosaic of many pictures, of many factors. >> the mission was unprecedented . >> in a situation where you're going into a country which is fraught with danger, which is potentially going into a city that's controlled by a nefarious and horrific force like isis, the risk levels go up considerably. >> it began under cover of darkness. several dozen elite commanders from units like army delta force and the navy s.e.a.l. team 6 landed in specially equipped radar-evading helicopters. they quickly made their way to a building where they were told james foley and other american hostages were being held. no one was there. a firefight broke out with nearby militants. several of those militants were killed. th
a stronghold of isis. u.s. special forces were sent into danger because the intelligence showed the target was a likely location where the hostages were being held, a senior u.s. official tells cnn. but it was not certain. the intelligence failed. >> intelligence doesn't come wrapped in a package with a bow. it is a mosaic of many pictures, of many factors. >> the mission was unprecedented . >> in a situation where you're going into a country which is fraught with danger,...
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does isis have cells in america? former cia officer bob baer believes they do. >> i have been told with no uncertainty there are isis sleeper cells in this country. >> reporter: but two u.s. officials tell cnn they have no indications of isis cells inside america right now. still, they are very concerned that isis fighters with western passports could travel to the u.s. and launch attacks. officials believe a handful of americans have fought with isis in iraq and syria. and cnn's peter bergin says others have tried to help the group. >> you've got three americans who've been indicted for joining usis in the last year, including by the way a woman, which is quite unusual. luckily, they were arrested before they could leave the country, but clearly isis is sort of -- if you're interested in this ideology, that's the most exciting thing to go and join right now. >> reporter: and tracking americans who are part of isis is getting more difficult, especially on the ground in syria and iraq. a senior u.s. intelligence offic
does isis have cells in america? former cia officer bob baer believes they do. >> i have been told with no uncertainty there are isis sleeper cells in this country. >> reporter: but two u.s. officials tell cnn they have no indications of isis cells inside america right now. still, they are very concerned that isis fighters with western passports could travel to the u.s. and launch attacks. officials believe a handful of americans have fought with isis in iraq and syria. and cnn's...
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that we face from isis, both abroad and possibly coming here. we need as much help in fighting terrorists as a group possible. and you can look at the units, i don't think -- >> do you need that -- do you need that in ferguson, missouri? how many terrorist organizations are targeting ferguson? to be honest? >> the realization is -- here's the problem. do you know where they're going to be? do you know where they're coming? you know? forget about terrorists. if you had a shooting in a school, in ferguson, where you have some mentally deranged person walk into a school and start slaughtering children, like they did in connecticut, you're going to need a response to go there. who are you going to call? somebody in new york? >> i understand what you're saying in every situation is different by the time anyone has gotten to newtown, it was really too late, even if it was a militarized presence from a police department. i want to get your response about the national guard being, i should say withdrawn, but a gradual removal of the national guard here,
that we face from isis, both abroad and possibly coming here. we need as much help in fighting terrorists as a group possible. and you can look at the units, i don't think -- >> do you need that -- do you need that in ferguson, missouri? how many terrorist organizations are targeting ferguson? to be honest? >> the realization is -- here's the problem. do you know where they're going to be? do you know where they're coming? you know? forget about terrorists. if you had a shooting in...
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isis can't be routed. this was his words. >> what's going on here, are the officials making up the policie policies ary deliberately? >> i think the irony is is the president is winding down the longest war in american history, in afghanistan, the result of american forces routing al quaida, and the taliban, who are ensconessed in. they will pursue terrorists in matter where they are, and of course that raid ultimately unsuccessful. put the question of going inside, a very far reach, right now, obviously with the on going civil war. >> remarkable day in american aid worker with the rett are rick are that came out about the islamic state, thank you. pent gone also offered new details on the secret mission to try to rescue james foley and other american hostages. he was beheaded this week by the group. today chuck hagel called the attempt flawless. there was only one problem, the hostages were not there. paul joins us now with more. >> well, that's right. t white house never intended to disclose this operati
isis can't be routed. this was his words. >> what's going on here, are the officials making up the policie policies ary deliberately? >> i think the irony is is the president is winding down the longest war in american history, in afghanistan, the result of american forces routing al quaida, and the taliban, who are ensconessed in. they will pursue terrorists in matter where they are, and of course that raid ultimately unsuccessful. put the question of going inside, a very far...
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soil by isis? >> the threat that isil poses not just to iraq but to the region grows, i would say, week by week. i think secretary hagel was clear about that. they have aspirations to attack western targets. they've taken hostages and they've murdered one of them right on camera. they do have aspirations to broaden their reach and scope. it's an apocalyptic vision that this group has. we would be imprudent if we weren't thinking about that. >> capabilities different than aim. >> they're well-resourced and well-led. >> they have a lot of money and safe haven. >> they have a lot of money. they have safe haven not just -- everybody is focused on the safe haven allegedly in syria. they have safe naichb iraq as well. it's one that we're working very closely with iraqi force to help defeat. >> isil, isis, we're referring to the same thing -- >> same group. at the pentagon we refer to them as isil. >> you hear secretary hagel saying get ready. is he preparing americans for further involvement in iraq than
soil by isis? >> the threat that isil poses not just to iraq but to the region grows, i would say, week by week. i think secretary hagel was clear about that. they have aspirations to attack western targets. they've taken hostages and they've murdered one of them right on camera. they do have aspirations to broaden their reach and scope. it's an apocalyptic vision that this group has. we would be imprudent if we weren't thinking about that. >> capabilities different than aim....
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longer term, it's about isil's vision which includes i actually call isil isis an isis, because it's easier for me to remember that their long-term vision is the islamic state of iraq and al sham, al sham includes jordan, iraq, syria, and kuwait. if they were to achieve that vision, it would fundamentally alter the face of the middle east and create a security environment that would certainly threaten us in many ways. >> john, kevin. >> i know the president and you all talk about right now, it's iraq's responsibility to take control of their own country. >> right. >> but isn't the u.s. already at war with isis? >> are you looking at me? >> you're the general. >> do i look like a guy that would answer that question in front of -- the declaration of war is a policy decision, not a military decision. >> is there any estimate how much these operations in iraq have cost so far and considering you said isis is part of the long-term threat an you're organizing a long-term strategy, might you need to reshape your 2015 budget to accommodate for that? >> maybe. well, depending first of all, go
longer term, it's about isil's vision which includes i actually call isil isis an isis, because it's easier for me to remember that their long-term vision is the islamic state of iraq and al sham, al sham includes jordan, iraq, syria, and kuwait. if they were to achieve that vision, it would fundamentally alter the face of the middle east and create a security environment that would certainly threaten us in many ways. >> john, kevin. >> i know the president and you all talk about...
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they want to make sure isis doesn't regain control of the dam. if they do, the concern is that isis might try and blow it up or make the dam breach or fail, and that would cause a massive humanitarian disaster, would cause massive flooding across iraq. so the u.s. has been keeping on going after these isis positions inside iraq, ashleigh. >> and then, barbara, obviously, the ante was certainly upped. knowing now what we know about the former rescue mission that failed and now the threat of an additional hostage that they're keeping, an american named steven sotloff, do we know about the possibility of other kinds of kpan dough raids, any kind of rescue missions that may ultimately save the life of steven or any of the other hostages? >> well, ashleigh, let's be very clear here. these types of missions are the most classified, closely held missions in the united states military. they never talk about them beforehand, but they almost never talk about them afterwards. they want to protect all of their options. they want to protect their tactics, tec
they want to make sure isis doesn't regain control of the dam. if they do, the concern is that isis might try and blow it up or make the dam breach or fail, and that would cause a massive humanitarian disaster, would cause massive flooding across iraq. so the u.s. has been keeping on going after these isis positions inside iraq, ashleigh. >> and then, barbara, obviously, the ante was certainly upped. knowing now what we know about the former rescue mission that failed and now the threat...
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should go to defeat isis. here is thomas from new jersey. caller: i'm concerned greatly about what isis has done, not only to religious minorities, christians, and now the bee heading of this journalist, i think we need to completely wipe out isis, whether that means continuing air strikes or -- i know that we were in war for many years, and i am very young, i'm only 20, but i think that it would be beneficial to us to take out isis because they are a tremendous threat to the entire world. host: so you could accept more of a step up, to what length? are you talking boots on the ground? would you just keep it to air strikes? caller: i would possibly have boots on the ground, but i would continue air strikes, but i also believe president obama needs to have stronger language and just -- and be more willing to confront the isis as a problem, because as reported in a congressional hearing as early as 2013, iraq was asking for help and the obama administration refused. if we had helped sooner maybe this wouldn't be
should go to defeat isis. here is thomas from new jersey. caller: i'm concerned greatly about what isis has done, not only to religious minorities, christians, and now the bee heading of this journalist, i think we need to completely wipe out isis, whether that means continuing air strikes or -- i know that we were in war for many years, and i am very young, i'm only 20, but i think that it would be beneficial to us to take out isis because they are a tremendous threat to the entire world....
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the adversary that is isis is probably spooked. my guess the threat to journalists goes up in this situation, and if you're sitting in the white house and the cia and pentagon, you're sitting there saying we don't have very many options here. >> so you think it makes their job harder? >> i think it does, but what happens in this situation, i was there at the white house, sometimes the press office calls. they call down when i was at the cia and said, look, a newspaper journalist or a media journalist at cnn has a story. they tell you the story. you say, look, that story is correct and unless we get out in front of the story, the media is going to own it. they are going to report some things that are incorrect, so you have a very difficult choice. you have the choice to say we're not going to respond to this story. we're not going to respond to this leak and the media runs with it, or you do what the pentagon and white house did and probably what i would have done which is to say we're going to roll with the story ourselves. >> and
the adversary that is isis is probably spooked. my guess the threat to journalists goes up in this situation, and if you're sitting in the white house and the cia and pentagon, you're sitting there saying we don't have very many options here. >> so you think it makes their job harder? >> i think it does, but what happens in this situation, i was there at the white house, sometimes the press office calls. they call down when i was at the cia and said, look, a newspaper journalist or...
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if president obama bombs isis in iraq, why does he not bomb isis in syria and that would put him in an incredibly uncomfortable alliance with president assad and that is probably policy wise what is stopping any u.s. air strikes on the syrian side of the border. so this whole thing, as you say, going back to 2003, it's incredibly complex but the u.s. is dipping its toe in the water of the air strikes. the question is strategically it's easy to get involved and it's easy to start this. where do you stop? >> british prime minister david cameron cut his vacation short and has put out a statement about the murder of foley. investigators believe foley's murder was british, which bill, again, raises concerns about terrorists with western passports. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: yeah. just going back to your previous conversation before i answer that, when you say europeans have paid money, the british government, for example, has a long record of never paying ransom money for hostages just like the u.s. government. on your point about western involvement in this, it is reckon
if president obama bombs isis in iraq, why does he not bomb isis in syria and that would put him in an incredibly uncomfortable alliance with president assad and that is probably policy wise what is stopping any u.s. air strikes on the syrian side of the border. so this whole thing, as you say, going back to 2003, it's incredibly complex but the u.s. is dipping its toe in the water of the air strikes. the question is strategically it's easy to get involved and it's easy to start this. where do...
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following the death of james foley at the hands of isis militants. word now on an attempt to try to save them. a special forces troop was sent to syria earlier this summer. he was part of a secret mission to save hostages like foley, but the hostages could not be found. meanwhile, the u.s. continues air strikes against targets in iraq and vows to be relentless to do what must be done to protect americans. brian mooar is in washington, d.c. what more do we know about this secret mission that you're hearing. >> richard, we're learning that commandos slipped over the border engaged in a bloody firefight with isis troops. one american was injured but none of the hostages were anywhere to be found the four radical islamists executed james foley. his participants had pleaded with the u.s. government to save him and others held hostage by the terror group isis. >> jim was a great american. and he believed in the very best of our country. >> reporter: but president obama told the grieving family the pentagon is now revealing to the world american special for
following the death of james foley at the hands of isis militants. word now on an attempt to try to save them. a special forces troop was sent to syria earlier this summer. he was part of a secret mission to save hostages like foley, but the hostages could not be found. meanwhile, the u.s. continues air strikes against targets in iraq and vows to be relentless to do what must be done to protect americans. brian mooar is in washington, d.c. what more do we know about this secret mission that...
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why so many british muslims are rushing to join isis. live team coverage from iraq and london, ahead. welcome back to "early start." i'm victor blackwell in for john berman. >> nice to see you, i'm christine romans. it is 31 minutes past the hour. let's start in ferguson, calm and order, slowly but surely returning to po missouri. a steamy rain keeping crowds down and tempers cool. earlier in the day, attorney general, eric holder, met with the family of michael brown. it his death has touched off nearly two weeks of violence. >> hopefully have a calming influence on the area. people know that a federal, thorough investigation is being done. >> prosecutors began presenting evidence to see if the officer who shot and killed michael brown should be charged. 24 hours ago, we were talking about hopefully the page had been turned on the violence of the protests. last night you had a calm night, stephanie. >> reporter: we did, no doubt about it. both sides were pleased with how things turned out. police were calmer on the streetings. you can s
why so many british muslims are rushing to join isis. live team coverage from iraq and london, ahead. welcome back to "early start." i'm victor blackwell in for john berman. >> nice to see you, i'm christine romans. it is 31 minutes past the hour. let's start in ferguson, calm and order, slowly but surely returning to po missouri. a steamy rain keeping crowds down and tempers cool. earlier in the day, attorney general, eric holder, met with the family of michael brown. it his...
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another isis stronghold. by launching air strikes for the first time on isis targets in that country. the only thing the president has ruled out is sending in more ground troops. but even so, the president who counts ending the war in iraq as a big part of his legacy now faces a new fight in iraq that could dominate much of the rest of his presidency. jonathan carl, abc news, martha's vineyard. >> thank you, jonathan. >>> u.p.s. is warning some customers credit and debit information may have been exposed by a computer virus. 100,000 transactions between january 20 and august 11th at risk. the company says it is not aware of any fraud related to the attack. an outside security firm found the virus at computers at 51 stores nationwide. >>> we are hearing for the first time from former virginia governor bob mcdonnell and his corruption trial. mcdonnell took the stand yesterday in his own defense one day into the trial. testifying about his sometimes volatile relationship with his wife maureen. the two were charg
another isis stronghold. by launching air strikes for the first time on isis targets in that country. the only thing the president has ruled out is sending in more ground troops. but even so, the president who counts ending the war in iraq as a big part of his legacy now faces a new fight in iraq that could dominate much of the rest of his presidency. jonathan carl, abc news, martha's vineyard. >> thank you, jonathan. >>> u.p.s. is warning some customers credit and debit...
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but what do you see as the strategic options from a strategic perspective in dealing with isis. >> isis did this because they want us to stop the bombing we're doing. if anything, it enhanced it. americans who were on the fence or somewhat ambivalent are going to say no, you have to go after these people because of who they are. i think what you're going to see is many more u.s. air strikes supporting kurdish forces and iraqi military forces, for example, they moved from the dam to try and take back tikrit. my guess is you're going to see a lot more american air strikes than we would have had this not happened. >> to play devil's advocate, the saddam hussein regime was horrific in its acts as well. they also pursued genocide. so we have learned what going to u.s. war in iraq looked like. is there a danger we're being drawn back into one that won't make the lives of iraqis better or be in american strategic interest? >> the fact that you have a new government in baghdad gives you hope that the iraqis will do the fighting. they're not going to send ground troops in there, large army divis
but what do you see as the strategic options from a strategic perspective in dealing with isis. >> isis did this because they want us to stop the bombing we're doing. if anything, it enhanced it. americans who were on the fence or somewhat ambivalent are going to say no, you have to go after these people because of who they are. i think what you're going to see is many more u.s. air strikes supporting kurdish forces and iraqi military forces, for example, they moved from the dam to try...
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america is worried about isis and al qaeda and other threats. well, they need to concern them self was injustice to other americans in america. >> what about, ben preston was offering statistics it's a 50-1 ratio the number of black that's kill other blacks and white cops thatÑi kill black defendants or blast individuals on the streetses. saying there is a bigger problem with black individuals killing other black individuals, that that is an epidemic to treat this like it's an epidemic is not based in reality. >> i didn't. on this issue he separates from black community the fact of the matter is that government we pay taxes to we serve in the military. the government that we're citizens of have an obligation that is higher than others and we believe in the constitution ask support the constitution z when it's violated it's different. >> do you think that the folks who are marching and rallying feel like this is a civil rights-era type event? >> if you look at what is the common teary and going into archives and see the language being used, they
america is worried about isis and al qaeda and other threats. well, they need to concern them self was injustice to other americans in america. >> what about, ben preston was offering statistics it's a 50-1 ratio the number of black that's kill other blacks and white cops thatÑi kill black defendants or blast individuals on the streetses. saying there is a bigger problem with black individuals killing other black individuals, that that is an epidemic to treat this like it's an epidemic...
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>> the fear has been that isis is different from al qaeda that isis want to control territory. want to rule. that they've been trading some small amounts of oil. dealing as a sovereign state. what we have seen with the effective air power in iraq the last couple of weeks that they have been pushed back from mosul. they did lose control of the dam. with more defeats like that, they can be put back on their heels. there is another school of thought they aren't nearly as powerful and not as fearful as has been suggested by what they do to be terrorists, they do horrific things on video, and that is partly how they inspire fear in people. >> andrea, one of the arguments made, the only way to get rid of these groups is to be done by islamic people themselves. are we going to have people willing to eliminate isis, go in there and get rid of these people. sunnis, larger community for example. perhaps in coalition with the kurds and reasonable shiites, go after them. >> that's been the hope. that's what president alluded to today, that middle eastern communities have to rise up, jordan
>> the fear has been that isis is different from al qaeda that isis want to control territory. want to rule. that they've been trading some small amounts of oil. dealing as a sovereign state. what we have seen with the effective air power in iraq the last couple of weeks that they have been pushed back from mosul. they did lose control of the dam. with more defeats like that, they can be put back on their heels. there is another school of thought they aren't nearly as powerful and not as...
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and isis is imposing its medieval interpretation of islamic law. yet many are rushing to become citizens of this barbaric nation. the last voice james foley heard was of his murderer. with what some say sounds like a british accent. >> this is james foley, an american citizen of your country. >> reporter: britain's prime minister was appalled. >> it looks increasingly like it is a british citizen. now, this is deeply shocking. >> reporter: shocking, but not surprising at all. security officials say isis has between 7,000 and 12,000 foreign fighters, hundreds from europe, and one from america. >> we are coming for you. >> reporter: he died carrying out a suicide bombing for a group considered more violent than al qaeda. >> even a group like al qaeda, which has perpetrated atrocities around the world, regards them as far too brutal. >> reporter: a big reason there's so many foreign fighters in syria is it's so easy to get there. young men come to turkey, go to the border crossing and walk in. and turkish authorities are make nothing real effort to st
and isis is imposing its medieval interpretation of islamic law. yet many are rushing to become citizens of this barbaric nation. the last voice james foley heard was of his murderer. with what some say sounds like a british accent. >> this is james foley, an american citizen of your country. >> reporter: britain's prime minister was appalled. >> it looks increasingly like it is a british citizen. now, this is deeply shocking. >> reporter: shocking, but not surprising at...
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america is worried about isis and al qaeda and other threats. well, they need to concern them self was injustice to other americans in america. >> what about, ben preston was offering statistics it's a 50-1 ratio the number of black that's kill other blacks and white cops thatÑi kill black defendants or blast individuals on the streetses. saying there is a bigger problem with black individuals killing other black individuals, that that is an epidemic to treat this like it's an epidemic is not based in reality. >> i didn't. on this issue he separates from black community the fact of the matter is that government we pay taxes to we serve in the military. the government that we're citizens of have an obligation that is higher than others and we believe in the constitution ask support the constitution z when it's violated it's different. >> do you think that the folks who are marching and rallying feel like this is a civil rights-era type event? >> if you look at what is the common teary and going into archives and see the language being used, they
america is worried about isis and al qaeda and other threats. well, they need to concern them self was injustice to other americans in america. >> what about, ben preston was offering statistics it's a 50-1 ratio the number of black that's kill other blacks and white cops thatÑi kill black defendants or blast individuals on the streetses. saying there is a bigger problem with black individuals killing other black individuals, that that is an epidemic to treat this like it's an epidemic...
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this time in syria winding up in the hands of the group calling itself isis. his boss at "the global post" is jim balboni. >> i never gave up hope that we would bring jim home. i was devastated last night. >> jim foley's parents are obviously devastated as well. they worked tirelessly for his release ever since he was taken in november 2012. >> we miss his courage, his love, his determination, his laugh, his smile. >> he brought so much joy into this family. >> and his dad said what was left mostly unsaid, about the terrible risks journalists like jim foley take every day. >> i think that we take journalists for granted sometimes. they -- they -- particularly freelance people. they risk their lives. they have no resource, no protection, not a major network. they get better stories but we really have not enough regard for the people who do this work. >> jim foley was 40 years old. that's it for us here in ferguson. we'll be back here tomorrow night as well. as our coverage continues, cnn tonight with don lemon. >>> good evening, everyone. this is "cnn tonight".
this time in syria winding up in the hands of the group calling itself isis. his boss at "the global post" is jim balboni. >> i never gave up hope that we would bring jim home. i was devastated last night. >> jim foley's parents are obviously devastated as well. they worked tirelessly for his release ever since he was taken in november 2012. >> we miss his courage, his love, his determination, his laugh, his smile. >> he brought so much joy into this family....
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>> isis did this because they want us to stop the bombing that we started. anyone on the fence is going to say, no, have you to go after these people because of who they are. you're going to see them destroying iraqi military forces. they move from the dam to try to take back tikrit. all other things being call, you're going to see a lot more american air strikes than we would have had this not happened. >> to play devil's advocate here, the zam regime is unspeakably accurate. they also pursue genocide. we learned what that -- going to war in iraq looked like. is there a danger we're being drawn back into one that won't make the lives of iraqis better or be in american strategic interests? >> i think the fact that you have a new government in baghdad gives you hope that the iraqis will do the fighting. we're not going to sound ground troops in there. large army divisions or anything, we're going to have special forces on the ground. we use american air power. remember how long we bombed in libya, several months, how long was 77 days in kosovo. american air p
>> isis did this because they want us to stop the bombing that we started. anyone on the fence is going to say, no, have you to go after these people because of who they are. you're going to see them destroying iraqi military forces. they move from the dam to try to take back tikrit. all other things being call, you're going to see a lot more american air strikes than we would have had this not happened. >> to play devil's advocate here, the zam regime is unspeakably accurate. they...
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air power can do in terms of pushing isis back? >> there are limits to pushing it back. when they move out of their areas, out of the urban areas where they have at least support of the ac mandarin questio acquiescence of the population, they are good targets of air power. but to dig them out of the sunni area parts of iraq, we need as president obama said a political process that can bring in the sunni tribes, mobilize the population against them as we were able to do against the forefathers. this is doable, but it will take time. >> as far as taking time in the political reconciliation we saw last week presiden prime minister nouri al-maliki greed to step aside, and his replacement will come in and this will mark the first peaceful transition using democracy in iraq. how confident are you that this will lead to an unified iraq? >> this is actually the second, i'm confident that we'll be able to reach out to sunni and kurds. but we can't wait for the perfect government. there are people fighting for key infrastructure including arab tribes in the anbar province, and fur
air power can do in terms of pushing isis back? >> there are limits to pushing it back. when they move out of their areas, out of the urban areas where they have at least support of the ac mandarin questio acquiescence of the population, they are good targets of air power. but to dig them out of the sunni area parts of iraq, we need as president obama said a political process that can bring in the sunni tribes, mobilize the population against them as we were able to do against the...
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posted online tuesday, isis called it a message to america in retaliation for u.s. airstrikes on the group's fighters in iraq. former deputy cia director mike morrell says the u.s. should not be deterred. >> so we should mark this date down because this is isis' first terrorist attack against the united states. >> reporter: foley was works as a note toll journalist covering the civil war in syria when he went missing in november 2012. previously, he had been detained working in libya and talked about the experience on cbs. >> well, we were going out to report on what was actually happening on the front lines. >> reporter: his family confirmed his death and called on his kidnappers to spare the lives of other who is. like jim, they are innocent. they have no control over american government policy in iraq, syria or anywhere in the world. the militant in the video speaks with a british accent. morrell says many foreign fighters have gone to syria and iraq to join isis and could pose a long-term threat to the u.s. and its allies. craig boswell, cbs news, washington. >>
posted online tuesday, isis called it a message to america in retaliation for u.s. airstrikes on the group's fighters in iraq. former deputy cia director mike morrell says the u.s. should not be deterred. >> so we should mark this date down because this is isis' first terrorist attack against the united states. >> reporter: foley was works as a note toll journalist covering the civil war in syria when he went missing in november 2012. previously, he had been detained working in...
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began attacking isis fighters in iraq. we've also just learned that president obama will speak about foley's death and the isis threats coming up later on in this hour, just over 40 minutes from now. cnn white house correspondent michelle kosinski is at the president's vacation retreat on martha's vineyard. this is all just breaking that the president is going to address this topic. do we know what he's going to say? >> no, but we've been expecting this. we have heard from the president several times over the last few days about the situation in iraq and the u.s. and the air strikes. i think what will be interesting, we know now, he will talk about james foley, but curious to know if it's going to be a statement just based on that or if he's also going to address the other american journalists in isis hands. we know the administration wants to be careful about this. it's not as if they want to address or necessarily seminegotiate or make a statement to isis via the u.s. media. but they probably want to send a message. so r
began attacking isis fighters in iraq. we've also just learned that president obama will speak about foley's death and the isis threats coming up later on in this hour, just over 40 minutes from now. cnn white house correspondent michelle kosinski is at the president's vacation retreat on martha's vineyard. this is all just breaking that the president is going to address this topic. do we know what he's going to say? >> no, but we've been expecting this. we have heard from the president...
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not the only american isis is believed to be holding. with more on that. >> at this point there are two american journalists we know for sure and we believe are still alive and being held. the american apparently threatened in that terrible video is the longest held american is a former u.s. marine turned journalist who arrived at reports from syria in 2012. on august 14 of that year he was abducted. his parents who live in houston, texas, have heard nothing since that day. we talked to them last week to mark the second anniversary of austen's capture. >> there has been no contact, no responsibility, of course as you might imagine in cases like this we have had people attempting to claimant is something about us or had some ability to reach. all those faded quickly into nothingness. >> greatest fear is often is being held by the same isis group that just rudely murdered james foley and have a message for the captors. one that echoes many ways what diane foley wrote after her son's execution. >> or message would be austin is a good man, h
not the only american isis is believed to be holding. with more on that. >> at this point there are two american journalists we know for sure and we believe are still alive and being held. the american apparently threatened in that terrible video is the longest held american is a former u.s. marine turned journalist who arrived at reports from syria in 2012. on august 14 of that year he was abducted. his parents who live in houston, texas, have heard nothing since that day. we talked to...
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strikes hit isis targets in iraq overnight. president obama is set to make a statement at this hour. foley's mother was seen today leaving her new hampshire home and heading to church. her son kidnapped twoea
strikes hit isis targets in iraq overnight. president obama is set to make a statement at this hour. foley's mother was seen today leaving her new hampshire home and heading to church. her son kidnapped twoea
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strikes against isis in iraq. and they are now threatening another slaying unless president obama backs down. james foley seen here just prior to his gruesome execution by isis, the radical islamist group. foley has been missing for two years. believed held with other western hostages near raquah in northern syria. an experienced journalist, most recently with "global post," foley was abducted on thanksgiving day 2012 in northern syria. six weeks after he went missing, his family spoke for the first time publically about his kidnapping on "today." >> you know, after 40 days without information, we felt it was important to make people aware and remind them that jim is an objective journalist and innocent journalist doing his job. >> reporter: foley had previously been held captive for 44 days by pro-gadhafi forces in libya in 2011. after his release, he was passionate about the need to cover wars despite the danger, as he told "the boston globe." >> i believe that for my journalism it is important. you know, withou
strikes against isis in iraq. and they are now threatening another slaying unless president obama backs down. james foley seen here just prior to his gruesome execution by isis, the radical islamist group. foley has been missing for two years. believed held with other western hostages near raquah in northern syria. an experienced journalist, most recently with "global post," foley was abducted on thanksgiving day 2012 in northern syria. six weeks after he went missing, his family...